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Orlandeau Hyman 12/9/2009(Sat)11:14:42 No.252902    [Reply]
Is there a non-formal language in which the mass describing inertia and the one describing gravitational interaction are different words?
P.S. Pic slightly related.
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Shigeru Humphreys 13/9/2009(Sun)06:33:00 No.256444
You mean like weight and mass?
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Orlandeau Hyman 13/9/2009(Sun)07:30:03 No.256519
>>256444
Yes, but doesn't weight equal mass multiplies by the acceleration of free fall near Earth's surface?
Somehow, this answers my question perfectly. Thank you.
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Shigeru Humphreys 13/9/2009(Sun)08:50:23 No.256679
>>256519
weight doesn't applies just to Earth. The same mass have different weights in different places (Moon, Mars, Jupiter)

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Jackie Nagato 22/8/2009(Sat)05:21:37 No.224415    [Reply]
I still can't understand those hormonal humans.

(Three answers most feared by men)


1. (Whatever)

Men: What to have for dinner?
Women: Whatever..
Men: Why not we have steamboat?
Women: Don't want, eat steamboat later got pimples in my face
Men: Alright, why not we have Si Chuan cuisine
Women: Yesterday ate Si Chuan, today eat again?
Men: Hmm..... I suggest we have seafood
Women: Seafood no good, later I got diarrhea
Men: Then what you suggest?
Women : Whatever..




2. (Anything)

Men: So what should we do now?
Women: Anything
Men: How about watching movie? Long time we didn't watch movie
Women: Watching movie no good, waste time only
Men: How about we play bowling, do some exercises?
Women: Exercise in such hot day? You not feel tire meh?
Men: Then find a café and have drink
Women: Drink coffee will affect my sleep
Men: Then what you suggest?
Women: Anything


3. (You decide)
Men: Then we just go home
Women: You decide
Men: Let take bus, I will

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Kurz Gautama 02/9/2009(Wed)05:44:29 No.236510
So what you're saying is generally women add nothing and need men to lead them around.

Not an uncommon observation

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Otto Gunther Atkins 18/8/2009(Tue)06:35:33 No.216883    [Reply]
las vegas mafia king,JOHN ELLISS 702-873-1299

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Anonymous 10/5/2009(Sun)08:03:11 No.17869    [Reply]
Let's chat about modern folklore and mythology.

I see no difference between today belief in skinny pale big headed fetus and the belief in other fantastic creatures in ancient civilizations.

Every culture has its myths and gods ancient people had mermeids, centaurs, medusas... today we have giant mutant mosquitoes and big headed pale skinnies...
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Sigmund Langley 10/8/2009(Mon)03:11:39 No.205958
Of course, we should not rule out wishful thinking as being at work here. Although, it is a bit easier to understand why someone would wish to have a mystical experience than it is to grasp why anyone would want to be abducted by an alien. But the ease with which we accept that a person might want to have a mystical experience is related to our cultural prejudice in favor of belief in God and the desirability of union with God. The desire to transcend this life, to move to a higher plane, to leave this body, to be selected by a higher being for some special task....each of these can be seen in the desire to be abducted by aliens as easily as in the desire to be one with God or to have an out-of-body experience (OBE).

It is possible, too, that abductees may be describing similar hallucinations due to similar brain states, as Michael Persinger argues. Likewise, the ecstatic and contemplative accounts of mystics may be similar due to similar brain states associated with bodily detachment and a sense of transcendence. Using electrodes to stimulate specific parts of the brain, Persinger has duplicated the feelings of the sensed presence and other experiences associated with near-death-experiences (NDEs), OBEs, mystical experience and the alien abduction experience. The language and symbols of birth, sex, and death may be nothing but analogues for brain states. Shared recollections of experiences do not prove that the experiences were not delusions. The experience which abductees think of as an alien abduction experience may be due to certain brain states. These states may be associated with sleep paralysis or other forms of sleep disturbances, including mild brain seizures. Sleep paralysis occurs in the hypnagogic state or the hypnopompic state. The description abductees give of their experience--being unable to move or speak, feeling some sort of presence, feeling fear and an inability to cry out--is a list of the symptoms of sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis is thought by some to account for not only many alien abduction delusions, but also other delusions involving paranormal or supernatural experiences.
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Sigmund Langley 10/8/2009(Mon)03:13:56 No.205960
There are, of course, certain psychiatric disorders which are characterized by delusions. Many people with these disorders are treated with drugs which affect the production or functioning of neurotransmitters. The treatments are very successful in eliminating the delusions. Persinger has treated at least one person with anti-seizure medication which effectively stopped her from having recurring experiences of the type described by alien abductees and those with sleep paralysis. Countless people with schizophrenia or manic-depression (bi-polar disorder), when properly medicated, cease having delusions about God, Satan, the FBI, the CIA, and aliens.

Even though the stories of alien abduction do not seem plausible, if there were physical evidence even the most hardened skeptic would have to take notice. Unfortunately, the only physical evidence that is offered is insubstantial. For example, so-called "ground scars" allegedly made by UFOs have been offered as proof that the aliens have landed. However, when scientists have examined these sites they have found them to be quite ordinary and the "scars" to be little more than fungus and other natural phenomena.
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Sigmund Langley 10/8/2009(Mon)03:17:14 No.205961
Many abductees point to various scars and "scoop marks" on their bodies as proof of abduction and experimentation. These marks are not extraordinary in any way and could be accounted for by quite ordinary injuries and experiences.

The most dramatic type of physical evidence would be the "implants" which many abductees claim the aliens have put up their noses or in various other parts of their anatomy. Budd Hopkins claims he has examined such an implant and has MRIs (magnetic resonance imaging) to prove numerous implant claims. When Nova put out an offer to abductees to have scientists analyze and evaluate any alleged implants, they did not get a single person willing to have their so-called implants tested or verified. So, of all the evidence for abduction, the physical evidence seems to be the weakest.

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Anonymous 07/5/2009(Thu)07:22:39 No.12250    [Reply]
So what do you guys think about Karl Marx?
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Franklin Van Houten 23/7/2009(Thu)04:37:47 No.132554
The concept is not related on how the site authority manages (or in some cases censors) the content, but the fact that this type of site virtually gives common ownership of the information on it. Altough the community still does not have control over the means of production (this function is basically performed by the administrators).
The idea is much better explained in the article and extends to the use of GNU general public and creative commons licenses.
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Kurz Herschel 24/7/2009(Fri)09:22:23 No.133754
>>132554
The way I thought of it was how private the content the poster is entitled to create.
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Bjorn Neylon 03/8/2009(Mon)09:43:48 No.196189
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i think he was a dumb fatass!

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Anonymous 28/7/2009(Tue)04:09:53 No.141209    [Reply]
Related to this thread:
>>120439

In philosophy, the brain in a vat is an element used in a variety of thought experiments intended to draw out certain features of our ideas of knowledge, reality, truth, mind, and meaning. It is drawn from the idea, common to many science fiction stories, that a mad scientist might remove a person's brain from the body, suspend it in a vat of life-sustaining liquid, and connect its neurons by wires to a supercomputer which would provide it with electrical impulses identical to those the brain normally receives. According to such stories, the computer would then be simulating a virtual reality (including appropriate responses to the brain's own output) and the person with the "disembodied" brain would continue to have perfectly normal conscious experiences without these being related to objects or events in the real world.
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Melissa Keehl 01/8/2009(Sat)11:40:11 No.192637
I think when I notice that I'm getting no new visual sensory information I would conclude that I'm no longer in my skull (which has eyes) but indeed in a vat....or somebody gouged out my eyes..when I try to reach for my eye sockets, and realize I neither feel my hand move nor the holes where my eyes had once been, I think then I'll assume I haven't a skull. Perhaps I won't know I'm particularly in a vat...but I know I'm not in a skull pretty quickly..
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Sigmund Langley 02/8/2009(Sun)03:11:24 No.193344
>>192637
The idea of a brain in a vai is that you will see and fell like any one else. You will see yourself in the mirror, you will feel your own skin, your limbs, the wind in your face and the cold floor in your feet, but they are all just electrical impulses generated by a computer.
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Nicholai Fei 12/8/2009(Wed)06:43:47 No.208704
>>193344
Perhaps the same could be said of all senses </Dracula>

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Anonymous 26/5/2009(Tue)08:46:02 No.44993    [Reply]

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Jaroslav Van Houten 25/7/2009(Sat)09:55:48 No.134354
Made me think.
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Schiezka McWilliams 28/7/2009(Tue)06:54:26 No.141434
aha, old thread
:)

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Anonymous 17/5/2009(Sun)10:34:02 No.35448    [Reply]
What is art?

To the untrained eye, they appear to be just a mess made by a toddler. To a art expert this is a Work of a Master, almost half of her works had sold before the opening of her first exhibition at the Brunswick Street Gallery in Melbourne.
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Sigmund Langley 26/7/2009(Sun)01:15:17 No.134497
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>>134362
Do you mean that this is art (a representation of a golden ring)

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Sigmund Langley 26/7/2009(Sun)01:17:22 No.134504
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>>134362
but this is not because it doesn't represents anything real (I would say "it represents it self and since I made it it is real now")
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Kashmir Norris 27/7/2009(Mon)06:35:08 No.136108
>>134504
I said art has to have form. That doesn't mean it has to be representative. And it is bad logic to imply that what has form is art in my thoughts.

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Licenses Anonymous 06/7/2009(Mon)01:57:07 No.101519    [Reply]
Whenever I hear political debacles about legalizing this, or changing the legal age on that, I always throw in the possibility of a full license system. Has anyone else ever thought about this?

I'm the biggest advocate on this for alcohol. I think the drinking age should remain where it is, but licenses should be administered (upon certified alcohol abuse/effects/etc. training) that allow one to buy and consume alcoholic beverages. This has potential to greatly decrease the number of binge drinking health problems (both short and long term) and even drunk driving injuries. Knowledge is power, and a license is a way to prove that you know your shit about what you're putting into your body, what it can do to you, and what it can do to others.

I also think that licenses would be effective in smoking, voting (so those under 18 who barely missed the cut can vote, not to weed out "bad" voters), and even the legalization of prostitution (they can learn the mental effects of whoring

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Kurz Herschel 22/7/2009(Wed)09:30:39 No.131937
Moving on, people could be measured in multiple dimensions, and the average of these values could set a standard. As Giordano said, the mentally retarded still have value.

In a state economy, workers could be employed based on their skills, and bred for them within castes.
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Sigmund Langley 23/7/2009(Thu)03:15:28 No.132543
The main problem with a IQ based eugenics is the idea that avoid the reproduction of "stupid people" would lead to smarter humans.

This seems logic at first but doesn't really works well in real world. In real world "stupid people" have more children than "smart people" but population's IQ is increasing instead of decreasing.

Eugenics by discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics) were tried in past, we even had genius sperm banks but they didn't worked as expected and were abandoned. To be fair not every eugenic measure were abandoned. We have some Pretty good measures like prenatal care (solve problems before it affect the fetus or minimize the effects)

Also a some genes in heterozygosity generates a benefical trait but becomes a disease in homozygous.
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Armand 26/7/2009(Sun)11:20:31 No.135050
>>132543

>In real world "stupid people" have more children than "smart people" but population's IQ is increasing instead of decreasing.

This doesn't prove that selection of smarter people wouldn't increase the overall intelligence of human race. Have you ever thought that increase of IQ on the past decades might be explained by cultural evolution? The environment of people has no doub become more complex by the past decades.

>genius sperm banks but they didn't worked as expected and were abandoned

I do not have much knowlage of the american genious sperm bank but what I know of it is that it worked. It was simply adandoned because the guy doing the thing was unable to continue his work(because of his death if I remember right) and people didn't like the idea of it. Luckily some of the idea still lives in the sperm doning business. The customers are offered information about the doner candidates.


(Traditional) eugenics isn't necessary about getting super results in few years (though we might get them), it is about steadily increasing (or sustaining) the quality of the human race by centuries and milleniums. It is an undeniable fact that genes affect the IQ of a person. Traditional (by that I mean eugenics that is based on modern knowlage but doesn't include genetical engineering) eugenics doesn't only increase the number of desirable genetical traits but it causes cultural evolution too because parents have a greater envinronmental effect on their offspring that strangers.

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Jaroslav Van Houten 03/7/2009(Fri)01:59:59 No.97930    [Reply]
What are the best fields to go into?

Some of you seem to be scientists and such, I want your opinions.
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Gersonides Salamah 06/7/2009(Mon)12:56:44 No.101437
Statistics. Hands down. The top 3 jobs in America (based on pay, work time, workplace environment, etc.) are stats-based. Entrepreneurs are understanding that they can't afford to take risks and are becoming more willing to fix things proactively which statisticians will help accomplish.
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Franklin Murphy 13/7/2009(Mon)06:52:49 No.111951
Chemistry, physics, maths (stats as said).

The last years, everyone began to thing that economy's going to do magically everything that needs to be done, and everyone went to economical studies. Add to that the fact that our generation somehow began to think it'll be possible to have fun all life long and be successfull without actually working.

I'm in a science university where we are 3 to grade in our speciality in the entire fucking region.

I see friends who went for economical or political studies who are struggling to find summer jobs, who are battling with hundreds of people to enter a school.

I just had to ask and I got 4 job offers for this summer, and have been accepted in every school I asked for.
Because science is actual work, and as nobody wants to do that there is a real need for scientists.

Seriously, if you don't hate science, go for it.
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Hanni-Mari Ellicott-Chatham 20/7/2009(Mon)07:55:17 No.127360
>>111951
>Seriously, if you don't hate science, go for it.

I, for one, want to. I really do.
But I didn't realize that I actually love it until recently. I'm already in the arts, and am successful here. I'm 20, never really liked nor have been great at math, and I'm wondering if it's stupid to even consider doing anything serious with science and if I should just keep that passion as a hobby. It's so late in the game, it seems. Going back to school for that would be nice, but it's not something I have the funds for.

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